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@mozillaofficial decided to add "Terms of Use" to .

If you just asked "WTF?", welcome to the club.

Of course, this doesn't make sense, it couldn't be just like that... so I went on and read the terms. The trick is specifically on this bit:

"These Terms only apply to the Executable Code version of Firefox, not the Firefox source code."

So sure, Firefox is still the Free Software codebase you were used to, only now if you want to use not the code but Mozilla's distributed binaries, you'll do so while also agreeing to some Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

The trick is, of course, to not use their binaries. In practice, things are a bit trickier. Ubuntu, for instance, was more than happy to ditch their self-compiled Firefox packages and use Mozilla-provided snaps instead.

But trickier or not... well, Mozilla has just made an unhappy user base unhappier - and I hope they reap what they are sowing.

@sarahjamielewis mastodon.social/@sarahjamielew

MastodonSarah Jamie Lewis (@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social)General rule of thumb: Every time an organization updates their terms of service and/or privacy policy, it is never because they have your best interests at heart. Specific thoughts on this latest Mozilla action (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/) Setting aside the "worldwide license" bullshit, the privacy policy appears to have broadened both the classes of data Mozilla aims to collect, and the situations in which they collect them. These are not the actions of an org that cares about your privacy.

@mozillaofficial in the meantime updated their news item to add this "explanation" regarding one of the items within the terms that has been criticized:

"We need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible. Without it, we couldn’t use information typed into Firefox, for example."

In the explanation, they don't tell us -what- is that "some basic functionality" they refer to, or why would Mozilla need to use information typed into Firefox, for example.

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The "official conversation" is happening here:

connect.mozilla.org/t5/discuss

There they tell users that "You stay in control". Unfortunately, their new Terms of Use say that:

"Every once in a while, Mozilla may decide to update these Terms. We will post the updated Terms online. We will take your continued use of Firefox as acceptance of such changes."

No matter how common this has become over the past years, this is quite unacceptable, and Firefox users deserve better from Mozilla. The fact that they can unilaterally change the terms and users are automatically bound to them (as soon as they use the browser again - even if they're using it to open the document where they can see the date on the terms!) is not a fair agreement - and works against the claim that "You stay in control".

connect.mozilla.org · Information about the New Terms of Use and Updated Privacy Notice for FirefoxFor the first time, we’re introducing a Terms of Use for Firefox, alongside an updated Privacy Notice. Earlier today, we published a blog post explaining why we’re making this change and what it means for you. Now, we want to hear from you. We’re committed to engaging with our community and keeping ...
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@marado @mozillaofficial URL bar suggestions comes to mind

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@jmaris @mozillaofficial

Why would any of this options mean data being sent to/through Mozilla?

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@marado @mozillaofficial afaik they also do search suggestions from search engines, or at least they can?

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@jmaris

And again, isn't that between the user and the search agent, without Mozilla's intervention?

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@marado Mozilla might proxy the requests to anonymise them.

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@jmaris we can theorize all day. Or, since they apparently identified already those service cases which now need terms of use, they can list them. And then, I'll argue why I still am against Firefox terms of use in general, and these in particular.

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@marado not saying what they have done is good, but there are potential avenues for explaining. I hope it will be clarified and/or adjusted soon